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    Image of Tamar Weinberg Tamar Weinberg
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    I hope that's not the only thing it fixes - iPhone 3.1 also disabled iPod controls when you double tapped the home button (except in certain instances). Let's find out.
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    Image of Tamar Weinberg Tamar Weinberg
    10/08/09

    Guess not. Disappointing that Apple doesn't see that as an issue.
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    Image of EBone EBone
    10/08/09

    @Tamar Weinberg: You can use the Settings to adjust what happens when you double tap the Home button. Perhaps your preferences were changed to something else?
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    Image of BlueGeek BlueGeek
    10/08/09

    @EBone: no, it's worse than that. It only gives you the quick iPod controls if it considers the music application to be open. This (largely) is only if music is already playing, or if the application was the last thing open before sleep set in.

    It's particularly annoying if you like to listen to music while using apps that pause whatevers playing on startup.
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    Image of KTK1990 KTK1990
    10/09/09

    @Tamar Weinberg: From what I herd from a friend (Have not tried it yet.) You can tap the center button on your headphones with mic to get it playing. BlueGeek is right about it only working when music is open. I agree it is a pain, I used to do that all the time on some apps where I didnt like their music. Now all it does for me when I try and play the music is exit the app.
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    Edited by KTK1990 at 10/09/09 8:07 AM KTK1990 was starred KTK1990 was unstarred
    Image of Tamar Weinberg Tamar Weinberg
    10/09/09

    @KTK1990: Assuming you have headphones with a mic. I don't so I can't test the theory.

    @BlueGeek: Yes, exactly. And I've been 1. using the Apple discussion forums to complain (along with several others, most notably 1G iPod touch users who don't have volume controls on the device *at all*) and 2. using Apple's request form to tell them to revert to the previous featureset. I also sent a rather curt email to Steve Jobs and Paul Schiller because it angers me so much. I've been fighting for a universal app sound override Settings option since September 2008.

    To @EBone, @kazinstrife (and even my new friend Spinny who can't see his own comment yet): Before firmware v3.1, if you double tapped the home button while an app was running, you'd get a pop-up of the iPod controls. If you double-tap now and fix it in the Settings menu, it exits OUT of the app and takes you to the music app. Not what I'm looking for.

    See the YouTube video above for an explanation.
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    Edited by Tamar Weinberg at 10/09/09 9:48 AM Tamar Weinberg was starred Tamar Weinberg was unstarred
    Image of KTK1990 KTK1990
    10/09/09

    @Tamar Weinberg: I just tried it. Pushing center stops the game music and plays the song. But when your done, you just hear nothing. Using a 64 gig touch I purchased yesterday.

    Also, all new ipods touches (g3 i know, not sure of the 8 gig), and iPhones come with the headphone with mic and volume controls.
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    Image of yardameus yardameus
    10/09/09

    @Tamar Weinberg: You can change that in settings.
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    Image of Tamar Weinberg Tamar Weinberg
    10/11/09

    @yardameus: Not sure about that as explained by the others in this discussion. I have General Settings Home to direct to iPod, but double tapping the home button does NOT give you iPod controls (that is, the little pop-up that isn't intrusive and is probably the only multitasking feature that exists on the iPod/iPhone). It actually exits out of the app you're running and takes you to the music, which defeats the purpose.

    The problem for me is when I am running a game and want to at least have control of my music. If the game is running and the game is set to automatically turn off my music, I have no way of getting the music app again via double-tapping. And that issue is even worse for people who are running 1st gen touches because they have no access to volume control at *all*.

    It's a real shame that Apple doesn't care to address this and even removed its functionality with the 3.x firmware.
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    Edited by Tamar Weinberg at 10/11/09 11:46 PM Tamar Weinberg was starred Tamar Weinberg was unstarred
    Image of Tamar Weinberg Tamar Weinberg
    10/11/09

    @KTK1990: Maybe I need to check out those headphones. But I'm doubting it will address what is needed -- and that is, to get the iPod controls when an application actually turns off the music app.
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    Image of Auhim Auhim
    10/13/09

    @Tamar Weinberg: Maybe this is late for this thread, but I've found that doing a quick "lock", then double tap home, lets you see the iPod controls. Then, once you're playing what you want, unlock and resume what you were doing. Works for me.

    Make sure Settings - General - Home has "iPod" selected and "iPod Controls" set to On.
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    Image of Tamar Weinberg Tamar Weinberg
    10/16/09

    @Auhim: I'm not sure what you're doing here but once a game interrupts your music that is currently playing, nothing -- not a quick lock or anything -- will restore iPod controls. And yes, I tried your solution to no avail. #iphoneos312
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    Image of Auhim Auhim
    10/20/09

    @Tamar Weinberg: Well, these have certainly been some delayed replies.

    For me it's a double tap while the iPhone is still locked. That always brings up basic iPod controls for me no matter what's happening (or not happening) on my iPhone. Just previos/play/pause/next and, if something's playing, the basic track info.

    This even works when I'm in, say, Tap Tap Revenge.
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    I was about to send this above reply when I decided to verify. It does work when I'm in the menu of Tap Tap Revenge, but not during gameplay. However, although TTR took control of the audio, once I exited to the TTR menu out of the gameplay screen, I could then lock, double-tap home, and click play once again.

    So the only time this doesn't work is when a game is actively taking over the audio. It works fine once a game lets go, sometimes without exiting the app, and you don't have to re-open the iPod app to get it to work after something else has stopped your playback. #iphoneos312
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    Image of TheWerewolf - Sotto voce TheWerewolf - Sotto voce
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    So my iPhone suddenly deciding it's not on the network was an actual bug. That's a relief. I was about throw the phone away.
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    Image of ShachiAssaracus ShachiAssaracus
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    So there really is a recognized sleep issue! Wow, I thought I was crazy. I have to do hard resets of my iPhone at least twice a week, if not more, because it won't wake back up.
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    jakebathman promoted this comment ShachiAssaracus was starred ShachiAssaracus was unstarred
    Image of jakebathman jakebathman
    10/08/09

    @ShachiAssaracus: yeahh!! I didn't know it was an "issue" I just thought my damn phone was broken. So awesome.
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    Image of Eruanno Eruanno
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    Sleep issue? What sleep issue?
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    Nathan Drake promoted this comment Eruanno was starred Eruanno was unstarred
    Image of Nathan Drake Nathan Drake
    10/08/09

    @Eruanno: I have no idea what they're talking about either. Haven't seen any problems so far. Well, aside from the fact that it sometimes loses the 3G connection even though it has good reception... Turning 3G off and then on again takes care of that btw.
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    Image of Julius Seizure - Canuck Julius Seizure - Canuck
    10/08/09

    @Nathan Drake: I can't speak for the iPhone, but my Touch would put itself into recovery mode at random when put to sleep. Annoying as heck.
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    Image of JackTheTripper JackTheTripper
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    In the last 2 weeks my phone has been lying to me about battery percentage. I could sit with it on at the home screen and actually watch the batter % drop every few minutes. This should not happen.

    From a full charge with minimal use (1 hour music, checking mail every 15 mins, 1 or 2 short phone calls) it said I was at 12% after only 4 hours. I Plugged it in to charge and it suddenly jumped to 63% and was fine the rest of the day. This keeps happening and I'm hoping this update fixes it.

    I had the no wake once as well.
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    Image of southerngeek southerngeek
    10/08/09

    @JackTheTripper: Let us know how it goes; this sounds similar to what's happened to me.
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    JackTheTripper promoted this comment southerngeek was starred southerngeek was unstarred
    Image of JackTheTripper JackTheTripper
    11/02/09

    @southerngeek: I went by the apple store and they said to reinstall the OS and re-sync (Don't restore from back-up) since it sounds like a corrupted OS. I did this and it still hasn't fixed it. They said it it didn't they would replace with new hardware. I've been out of the country until now so I'll be going back this week and swapping out my phone for a new one. #iphoneos312
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    Image of southerngeek southerngeek
    11/03/09

    @JackTheTripper: I went ahead with 3.1.2, and mine's gotten somewhat better. The really weird part is that I now have good days and bad. With nearly identical use, sometimes I get home after work with 75% left, and sometimes it's closer to 35%. Annoying, but I'm done screwing with it. #iphoneos312
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    Image of JackTheTripper JackTheTripper
    11/03/09

    @southerngeek: I as in the same boat.

    Just got back from the apple store with new phone. Hope there are no problems with this one. #iphoneos312
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    Image of benztech55amg benztech55amg
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    Hope this fixes the sensitivity for changing from portrait to landscape, too. Used to be able to put my phone in the motorcycle cradle with no problem. Ever since upgrading to 3.1 the vibrations from the bike have been freaking it out. It keeps flipping orientation every few seconds. Makes it impossible to queue up songs.
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    10/08/09

    @benztech55amg: I don't ride my bicycle with my iPhone without putting it in a bag under my seat where it will sustain the least amount of trauma in a crash. You put yours on your motorcycle? You truly are harder core than I.
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    Image of bobman1235 bobman1235
    10/08/09

    @badhatharry: Wiping out on a motorcycle is a tad different than wiping out on a bicycle. The last thing I'd be worried about when crashing my moto would be my iPhone.
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    badhatharry promoted this comment bobman1235 was starred bobman1235 was unstarred
    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    10/08/09

    @bobman1235: I can understand that. Still, breaking your iPhone just adds insult to the injuries you sustained in the accident. Although it's possible insurance would cover a new one. Still, that's a bit more reckless than I would be comfortable with
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    Image of bobman1235 bobman1235
    10/08/09

    @badhatharry: By the way, love the username. "That's some bad hat harry" is pretty much my default saying to anyone wearing a hat that's even moderately out of the ordinary. THen again, I'm obsessed with Jaws.
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    Image of rudyfrederic rudyfrederic
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    still waiting for the update that makes my wi-fi work again...
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    Canoehead promoted this comment rudyfrederic was starred rudyfrederic was unstarred
    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    10/08/09

    @rudyfrederic: Is it totally frakked or just intermittent?
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    Image of Julius Seizure - Canuck Julius Seizure - Canuck
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    Oh thanks be to Jebus, My Touch died from battery swell a number of weeks ago and the night I got the replacement, 3.1.1 was issued and got installed when I "restored" to the new Touch.

    I've been having the "cannot wake" now and then ever since. I'd been girding my loins for another session with their tech support line.
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    Image of Julius Seizure - Canuck Julius Seizure - Canuck
    10/09/09

    @Julius Seizure. (the CANUCK one): Well, that didn't work. Sigh. I guess I'll have to call Mohinder ooops, "John" at the tech support desk.
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    Never had this problem.
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    Image of anexanhume anexanhume
    10/08/09

    @Voyou_Charmant: Both my 3G and my finacee's 3GS have had this happen, so we're happy to see it come.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    What are AT&T carrier Settings 5.6?
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    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    10/08/09

    @Homerjay is utterly alone.: They are the settings that allow mms.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    Yay, Pornhub Mobile is stable again!
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    Kaiser-Machead promoted this comment BeyondtheTech was starred BeyondtheTech was unstarred
    Image of RichasB RichasB
    10/08/09

    @BeyondtheTech: HIGH FIVE!!! (with left hands).
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    Image of pwnerjam4.0 pwnerjam4.0
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    meh
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    10/08/09

    @pwnerjam4.0: bleh
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    Barry99705 promoted this comment D.E.P.C. was starred D.E.P.C. was unstarred
    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    10/08/09

    @D.E.P.C.: Hey!! Cover your mouth when you sneeze!
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    Image of Gizmodoholic Gizmodoholic
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    i start to hate updates...
    2 of my friends will come to tell me they briked their jailbrake iphone. and they will come with 999 of their friends who also got stuck and want me to fix it up.
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    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    10/08/09

    @Gizmodoholic: Tell them to stop jailbreaking their phones and that won't happen.
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    Image of zeroprime: #zeroprimeowns zeroprime: #zeroprimeowns
    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last
    "• Resolves intermittent issue that may interrupt cellular network services until restart"

    Thank GOD. I've had this happen to me two times and I am pissed off. I missed important calls on both occasions and was ready to call and bitch to AT&T if it happened again. At least now I know it was Apple's fault (and that they have fixed it!)
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_RockinLabCoat GitEmSteveDave_RockinLabCoat
    10/08/09

    @zeroprime: :::::: And do you really think it wouldn't have "dropped" while you were on "hold"?
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    10/08/09

    In reply to iPhone OS 3.1.2 Is Out, Solves Sleep Issue at Last

    Is the iTouch included? The Splurge has been having issues with responding to my gentle, yet deliberate, caress since going up to 3.1.1.
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    10/08/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_IsWaving: When are people going to figure out we don't sell an iTouch?
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    Image of Maddfrog Maddfrog
    10/08/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_IsWaving: Yes, the iPod Touch is included. I'm updating mine right now.
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    GitEmSteveDave_IsGWaving promoted this comment Edited by Maddfrog at 10/08/09 2:02 PM Maddfrog was starred Maddfrog was unstarred
    Image of BergenCountyJC BergenCountyJC
    10/08/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_IsWaving: You could be a hand model....or at least in the next iPhone/Touch commercial
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